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will wait until tuesday. that means the u.s. could go over the fiscal cliff. on wall street today, investors bought up stocks on high hopes of deal, after president obama said this afternoon a deal is "in sight," and positive comments from republican leaders in the senate. here's how e major averagesr closed on this last trading day of 2012. the dow surged 166 points, the nasdaq jumped about 60, and the s&p rose almost 24 points. while wall street has already closed the books on 2012, washington still has a few hours to go before its new year's day fiscal cliff deadline. darren gersh has the latest. >> reporter: after a weekend of late-night negotiations with the vice presidt, senate republican leader mitch mcconnell said an agreement on the fiscal cliff was very, very close. >> we'll continue to work on finding smarter ways to cut spending, but let's not let that hold up protecting americans from the tax hike that will take place in about 10 hours. >> reporter: the deal would raise the top tax rate for individuals making more than $400,000 and couples with more than $450,000 in income. item
. this is days before the fall off of the fiscal cliff. senate democrats are telling republicans get out of the way of a last-minute deal, accept tax increases for people making $250,000 a year. get out of the way. accept that. joining us is the founder of the media research center. blame if problem is spending and neither side is being serious about spending. neither side is. stuart: when you put your finger on it. they are politicians, are they not? they have to have in the back of their mind, they are politicians. they have to bear in mind the next election can they get reelected? can any politician get reelected by saying i am going to cut entitlements, cut spending? you are going to lose something? >> do you realize we have been doing this for 25 years? do you understand why we are in the mess we're in now? for 25 years both sides kicked the ball down and that is why we have not had a budget in three years. nobody wants to take a stand. every single republican, republican ran for office on the pledge to hold the line on taxes and cut spending. that is what they're are bound to do. b
. lawmakers on capitol hill are trying to put the brakes on before we with fly over the fiscal cliff. democrats and republicans are working towards a compromise, on friday, president obama said he was optimistic, but still no deal and the deadline is three days away. >>> george h. w. bush, out of intensive care and in a regular room at a houston hospital. the 88-year-old has been in the hospital for more than a month, he was admitted for bronchitis and has been battling a fever lately. mr. bush is said to be in good spirits singing with doctors and nurses. he got a phone call from the oakridge boys who sang "amazing grace." >>> in syria, an alarming number of people died outside the city of homs, syrian forces won a battle for control there and people were executed. in all, across the country, more than 380 people were killed today in fighting, bombings and air strikes. >>> a russian airliner slid off of a run way and smashed into a highway outside of moscow today, 4 of the 8 crew members were killed as the plane splintered into three pieces no passengers on board and no one on the h
decide he wins either way. he passed it in the house or he will blame going over the fiscal cliff on the republicans if they resist. completely in the driver's seat and he will l decide what is on the table at december 31 at 11:00 at night. >> let's look at the national debt clock. we surpassed the $16 trillion mark. $16.4 trillion. interest on the debt is huge. thereon what bayh boy said recently. >> servicing the debt hard now. this is interest rates at record lows. god forbid something should happen to cause interest rates go up a littlement we have seen nothing yet. interest rates eventually will go up. >> doug: in the negotiations we are ignoring the long-term implications of this. >> people are aware of it. >> part of is it the future generations. the damage that it could do if the interest rate goes up in short-term to the economic interest. the market did not retake alarm we're going over the fiscal cliff. in days to come and the prospects for after the cliff is that the market would say this is alarming that washington can't get the act together. we have to deal with the
to fiscal cliff. >> this is like taking your child hostage and saying to somebody else i'm going shoot my child if you don't do what i want done. there is no republican lead they're wants to default on our debt. >> eric: that is a different story. not the fiscal cliff. that is debt ceiling debate we were talking about. he says give us a checkbook and taking a shot at republicans. that is different from the fiscal cliff. >> andrea: they are intertwined. not separate entities. i point out is the language he used. con plaited republicans holding their children hostage and murdering them. imagine if the republicans said that. you have don't hear about it. you hear about it here. >> kimberly: because we put it on fox news. i like to play a game called seal a new deal. go around the table. >> andrea: taken. >> kimberly: it has? >> andrea: yeah, sorry. >> kimberly: we play this and begin with you. let me know what you think. deal or no deal by the time of the deadline? >> no deal. meeting with the political theater. >> kimberly: andrea? >> andrea: no deal. >> kimberly: he doesn't want one. he is
to avoid the fiscal cliff. he'll also have to put together something that will get republican support in the house. this is a last-ditch effort and will be obviously very difficult if it succeeds at all. at this point, the white house still wants that threshold for income tax rates to be at 250,000. it's unclear, exactly what the senate proposal is going to look like. as we understand from sources, al inna, it could be a couple of days, even though this are reconvening tomorrow, it could be a couple of days before they outline the proposal. we're told by sources they are waiting to get republican support in the senate but to build pressure in the house. if they move the deadline close -- move the timeline from unveiling a proposal as close to the new year as possible it increases pressure on the house and, of course, if the house doesn't take up the bill, you can see that we're already sort of setting the scene for the blame game. democrats would point the finger at republicans for going over the fiscal cliff. >> that's been going on for a while as you well know, brianna, and as the p
on the thousands that republicans stand to hurt in their own districts if we go over the fiscal cliff. >>> history was made this year in more ways than one. we saw unprecedented efforts being made at the state level to suppress the vote, targeting the poor, the young, the elderly, and minorities. we also saw the re-election of the first african-american president. and with that historic event came a whole wave of hate speech and racist stunts. social media provided a platform for the nation's unenlightened to air their grievances with the president's skin color. one blog tracked the origin of racist tweets, following the president's re-election. the majority of them coming from red states in the southeast. twitter saw another eruption of racist language when the president interrupted sunday night football to address victims' families in newtown, connecticut. and for those not as technologically savvy, danny halfly of kentucky proves there are more old-fashioned ways to show one's ignorance in 2012. halfly says there is nothing racist about this barack obama mannequin, holding a slice of watermelon
the fiscal cliff, each side says the other is to blame. correct we can still avoid going over the fiscal cliff if the president and senate step forward and work with republicans to solve the problem. >> all over the country, uncertainty is in the air. >> it is not a matter of whether i will pay might not like bill, but it will the played my savings. >> it is the perceived impact that could cause a drop in sails. >> getting a deal is up to the 's top democrat and republican. >> we are engaged in discussions in the hopes we can not come forward as early as sunday with a recommendation. >> whatever we come up with will be in perfect. some people will not like it. some people will like it less. that is where we are. >> harry reid and mitch mcconnell say they're confident they can find a compromise, but then they have to sell it to john painter and his fellow republicans before -- to don banner -- john painter and his fellow republicans before the deadline. >> he has called them back for a rare saturday session. this sunday, president obama will be the exclusive guest on "meet the press. you
america falling over the fiscal cliff? house republicans haven't yet called their members back to washington. our chief political correspondent, john harwood, is with us. john, this feels very much like it might be the calm before the storm in more way than one. >> it could be if we go over the cliff and the storm would be generated by the markets and the loss of confidence in american governance and the american economy, but that's not necessarily going to be the case. we still have a few days left. a white house official told me that there have been no progress over the last couple of days, but an aide to senator harry reid told me there's still a 50/50 chance we get a mini deal that would put off the effects of the cliff at least temporarily and a 50/50 chance of that happening before january 1st. so even though there's a small number of days, sometimes the urgency of a deadline forces lawmakers to overcome differences they can't overcome otherwise. >> remind us, john, a mini deal is composed in the senate but still has to pass through house republicans and boehner or not? >
on the fiscal cliff. let's bring in republican strategist. -- let's bring in a republican strategist. welcome back. >> good to be here. stuart: it looks like the republicans will get quite a bit of the blame regardless of whether we get a deal, no deal, or whether we go over the cliff. i think you will probably agree that short-term they get the blame. how about long-term >> look, this is obama's game. his game is he needs someone to blame. he had bush in his first term. now he's got the fiscal cliff. blame the republicans. and the truth is, in the short-term, the g.o.p. gets the blame. and they deserve it a little bit. but in the long-term, things change. stuart: you are a republican strategist. why do you say that republicans deserve some of the blame short-term? >> well, they deserve it the same way everyone in washington deserves it. no one in washington is incentiveized to think about the long-term. everyone is thinking about the short-term. by the way we see this in the private sector as well where companies think about, you know, the next quarter and never think about the long-term. th
in the fiscal cliff crisis. house republicans agree to meet sunday night to resume talks after a day of finger-pointing and complaining in washington. on wall street, fiscal fears created whiplash for investors: a big stock market sell-off and then bounce back on word that lawmakers are springing back into action. and, if you used your smartphone to shop this christmas, you're in fashion. it was the year's top retail trend. we have that and more tonight on "n.b.r."! a dramatic cliff-hanger today between washington and wall street about the fiscal cliff. stocks initially sold off after senate majority leader harry
the fiscal cliff aired it earlier today. he put much of the blame on shoulders of the republicans if no deal is reached. the gop fired back saying the president should lead right now not cast blame. correspondent s henry is live from the white house. >> he is frustrated going on a talk show today in the middle of the negotiations. he has not been on one of the programs since 2009. he felt it was important to get the message out there. you are right he was pounding the same message again and again f. we go up the fiscal cliff for not meeting them halfway. >>> not because democrats and congre congre congress don't want to go ahead and cooperate but i think it has been hard for speaker boehner and republican mcconnell to accept the fact taxes on wealthiest should go up a little bit sweas well as a deficit reduction package. if they can't say yes to good offers i have an obligation to make sure the entire burden of deficit reduction doesn't fall on seniors who are relying on medicare. >> republicans are expressing frustration saying the president is trying to put the blame on them for going off
cliff if he so chooses. they were elected to get the fiscal house in order. now is the time for republicans to stand up for your kids and grandchildren. maybe she the should say they're looking out for the future, future generations maybe now is the time to take a stabbed stand and say they're not going let washington continue with this out of control spending, debt, maybe now, at this moment, maybe that is the right thing to do. and joining me now with reaction to this developing story are two house republicans, congressman louie gomert. welcome back to "hannity". >> good to be with you. >> sean, i can -- . >> sean: go ahead. >> i can sympathize that he can not imagine our consciences in the house because you'd have to have one to aimagine ours. and he's shown repeatedly, over three years of no budget? come on. jm%lx >>> and first through on december 31. up, hairy reid saying it's time to cut spending not for now, but future generations who arere"Ñde one that's have to pay this off? >> it seems tozc)Ñ my, congressn gomer this has been the bush tax cuts have been lost sin
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three days before year-end deadline to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff. obama and congressional republicans remain at an impasse over the republicans' refusal to allow tax hikes even for the wealthiest americans. if an agreement is not reached in time, $600 billion in automatic spending cuts and tax increases will go into effect on january 1. but the tax increases would not necessarily be permanent. the new congress could pass legislation to cancel them retroactively after it begins its work next year. >> while the so-called fiscal cliff has dominated the news headlines, the senate is also preparing to vote today to continue a controversial domestic surveillance program. in a blow to civil liberties advocates, the senate rejected three attempts thursday to add oversight and privacy safeguards to the foreign intelligence surveillance act. joining us from washington is democratic congressmember dennis kucinich. this is his last again congress after serving eight terms. since 1997, dennis kucinich has been a leading progressive voice on capitol hill, into these articles of impeachm
-called fiscal cliff. short-term will hurt the republicans, undeniably. long-term, it will hurt the democrats and president obama. dennis: i thought all along that the republicans would look horrible. now, i'm wondering if it is switching the other way. a family earning only $20,000 a year will see that their tax refund gets cut in half if we go off the cliff. >> i think you are right. especially since we have not had the follow-through, dennis. what is the reason for all of this? where are we heading? the president, nor the republicans have answered that question. dennis: thank you for being with us. dagen: chicago mayor is renewing a plan to privatize the cities i second biggest airport. jeff: this was the world's busiest airport from 1948 to 1961. now it is just three big airlines that call this home. southwest, frontier and delta. it is still a huge cash generator for the city. he famously had a deal to privatize the city's parking meters and the problem is, they took all the money they had and spent it already. mayor manuel is under some scrutiny. as i said, both are choosing to do so. t
that republicans are willing to take to avert the fiscal cliff. there's their 400,000. so everyone who makes $400,000 their taxes would stay the same. would that be acceptable. if there is no deal to be reached we do know that harry reid will try to move forward on monday with the bill for those making $250,000 or below. so that's what we need to see how it will work there. there are types of sweeteners they can do. mitch mcconnell is a tough place and this is the underreported part of the story. he has to figure out a deal that gets through the senate and doesn't make john boehner look too bad in the house and there are a lot of conservatives in the house that don't want to do any type of deal that would raise taxes on anybody even though they'll go up on the entire country the first tax hike in 20 years after monday night. >> and one would also assume that mitch mcconnell would have to back a grant, he could face a primary fight if this thing -- >> you touched on one of the great sub plots of these entire negotiations is personal things that boehner and mcconnell have in these negotiations. obv
for republicans in the middle of the fiscal cliff thing they throw boehner over the edge or start the process for removing boehner? seems if anything, again, as a pragmatic matter that even maybe hurts the republicans more or is it right? is anthony right that you are going to lose ground anyway so you might as well stick to your first principles and look at what happened to george h.w. bush after he went back on his tax no tax pledge. >> if he can't lead and offer solutions he probably shouldn't be there. there is a great game as to if not he, who. that is a fair question. these things happen fast. i'm not saying that it will. the only people that can really counter are the 435 members in there. they know what is happening on the inside. >> laura: what should he do? >> offer a solution. >> laura: what solution? he tried to offer. >> offer a bold solution and go out to america and debate it and don't do secret meetings. we had two years of simpson bowles and knew this was coming. debate the concepts with america and continue debating them. >> laura: don't worry about the fiscal cliff. >> push
over that fiscal cliff. that would allow hard lying republicans to have lower taxes. >> to apiece voters. great. >> so called it low form of chay in an begans. >> i think it would be horrible. i think i don't think it's fair to the american people. >> with 2 million people on the verge of losing their unemployment benefits, there are too many lives at stake if we don't get it before the end of the year. >> the ceo of star, bucks is sending a message. writing come together on the coffee cups they serve on thursday and friday. urging a compromise on fiscal cliff negotiations. >>> the city of san francisco may pay employees to stay healthy. a group of government employees consider to be the healthiest. of that group, two-thirds were overweight. now city leaders in san francisco are considering a plan to give direct incentives to employees for being healthy. it would save the city money in the long run. >> a request for a waiver of the no child left behind law. the goals are unreelistic and flawed. to evaluate teachers based on their student's test scores. so far 33 states and the ter
your local news on "cbs this morning," an update on washington's fiscal cliff negotiations. we'll hear from republican senator bob corker, plus the damaging economic strikes looming at more than a dozen of our nation's forts. >>> a guy getting fit will sit with the best-selling authors of "fit" this year. that's the "cbs morning news" for this friday. thanks for watching. i'm duarte geraldino. have a great day. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >> your realtime captioner: linda marie macdonald >>> hi, everyone. good morning. it's our last friday of 2012! december 28th. i'm frank mallicoat. >> i'm michelle griego. time now is just about 4:30. let's start things off with a look at weather and traffic. i feel like i'm losing my voice. >> oh, no. >> i know. >> are you really? >> a little bit. >> you have so many visitors in town. >> i know! >> the entire state of colorado stayed at your house! >> you will have the weekend to rest your voice. >>> in the weather, we are getting a check of our high-def doppler radar. and it's quiet for now. but we are anticipating some big changes by thi
politicians are running out of time to avoid the budget crisis known as the fiscal cliff. every reed said democrats and republicans had to stop squabbling to have any chance at which an agreement by december 31st and higher taxes and spending cuts will automatically take effect. president obama has cut short his holiday to revive the talks. >> if we go over this cliff, the house of representative with four days left are not here with the speaker having told him that he will have 458 hours' notice. i cannot imagine their conscience out there wherever they are around the country and we are trying to get something done. >> why is the american economy teetering on the edge of the cliffs? these are some of the things that president obama is trying to prevent with the return to the lighthouse. an employment has fallen to a four year low and currently stands at 7.7%. no deal could mean 2.1 million jobs disappearing parent to it would equate to a contraction of 1.5% in the value of all goods and services america producers meaning less money to afraid with the rest of the world. as far as the repu
the can down the road, jeff, we'll do some small deal and create another fiscal cliff to deal with this fiscal cliff. >> just let the people's housework its will. instead of handing over the keys to the most extreme elements in the house republican caucus. >> a lot of people donnell realize he is blocking a vote in the house. >> i think in the end we'll get a deal. the question is the timing. >> i am hopeful there will be a deal that avoids the worst parts of the fiscal cliff. >> i want to bring you in and say good morning to sander levin. sir, it's good to have you with me. what is your expectations or thoughts about hear that the president and vice president joe biden are calling the four congressional leaders behind closed closed doors today. >> i am hopeful. i wouldn't say i'm optimistic, but i think confidence has gone down. i think the key is whether the speaker will be the speaker of the entire house and let the matters come before us where there could be a majority of democrats and perhaps a majority of republicans, but let es speak our will and act on our will. that's
the fiscal cliff deadline, house republicans have pulled a plug. this, after both senate and white house made it clear a deal was very close. >> president obama told supporters this afternoon that there has been progress in avoiding a hike in middle class tax autos preventing that tax hike has been my top priority. >> the president said the deal being worked outwqjx between the senate republican leader mcconnell and vice president will extend current tax rates for households making up to $450,000 per year, increasing estate tax rate from 35% to 40%, and extend unemployment benefits one year. sticking spoint how long to push off massive mandatory spending cuts to the pentagon and domestic program goesing into affect in the new year, democrats want a one year extension, republicans insifrting on sooner. the president issued this warning about cuts only strategy. >> if they think that is going to be the form larks they've got another thing coming. it's not how goitsing to work. >> republicans bristledíróqj2lt remarks. >> it was dismissive and insulting. belittling and in the end, sad. >> sena
ceiling and we haven't climbed back up the fiscal cliff and the republicans begin playing games with the debt ceiling, that would be fiscal suicide. we breakthrough the debt ceiling, we're talking depression. not a quick recession. it would be the single stupidest and most damaging act of sabotage in american history. and it cannot be allowed to happen. and here, hopefully to tell me why it will not happen is alice, who probably knows more about the budget and the budget deals than probably anybody else alive. she's appointed to president obama's national commission on fiscal responsibility and reform. and she's currently a senior fellow at the brookings institution. thank you for being here tonight. >> happy to be here. >> you know much more about this than i do. you heard the intro, is there anything you want to add or correct anyway you see the fiscal cliff that you think people should know about? >> i thought your five points were good ones, especially the one about austerity, what we're talking about now is doing something really stupid as you said, and letting the wrong po
the fiscal cliff, democrats and republicans have left the capitol for their respective homes. for the majority of the country, that means we are essentially going over the cliff. president obama is in hawaii for christmas with his family b. before he left, he urged congress to adopt a stopgap measure to prevent taxes from rising on people who make less than $250,000 a year. he also asked for a plan to keep providing benefits to unemployed workers. house speaker john boehner is home in cincinnati. he failed to get members of his own party to support his plan b proposal to end the crisis. he said the stalemate and failure of plan b rests with the democrats. >> what the president has offered so far simply won't do anything to solve our spending problems and begin to address our nation's crippling debt. instead he wants more spending and more tax hikes that will hurt our economy. and he refuses to challenge the members of his matter to deal honestly with the entitlement reform and the big issues that are facing our nation. that's why we find ourselves here today. >> president oba
>> it is time to roll up the sleeves and get down to business on the fiscal cliff. democrats and republicans have made the trip to the white house. i'm ashley webster,. it is the last hour of trading, and count down to the closing bell starts now. we have breaking news from washington. rich edson at the white house where president obama is about to meet with key members of congress, and, rich, there's talk of a scaled down deal put forth by the president. what have you heard? >> it that is the discussion. you have harry reid, mitch mcconnell arriving at the white house, should have house leadership shortly to begin a meeting, a last ditch effort to try to help the economy avoid the fiscal cliff, or at least pieces of it, and, yes, the buzz around washington is a possible path forward that aids describe as preventing tax increase for income amounts of $400,000 or $500,000 or so, extend unemployment insurance, but, still, nothing has been agreed to. all in washington are waiting to see how this meeting goes. it's just about to start here in dc. meanwhile, on capital hill, the f
the fight that made us sit here today to talk about the quote/unquote fiscal cliff and the republican haves the boehner rule to ask for a dollar in cut for every dollar the limit is extended. the debt limit being money that we have paid and obligation to pay. and so, if democrats and republicans aren't come together now, and a month and a half from now republicans come back to the table and say we need more cuts, i don't know what the president is going to look to to cut. seems like a complicated mess that they have on their hands and the more clarity they get now, the easier it's going to be in a few weeks from now. if they get a small deal that leaves no path forward on the bigger issues i think that we'll be here in a month and a half talking about the same things. >> thank you so much, meredith and david. >> thank you. >> thank you. >>> a huge winter storm packed with snow and sleet out of the midwest and heading towards the eastern seaboard. blizzard warnings from arkansas to illinois. wintry mix is expected in the northeast. it's the same storm system that sparked a tornado outbreak i
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that republicans and democrats together could get a majority for the president's proposal to avoid the fiscal cliff and deal with the deficit in a balanced way. in fact, as we know, republicans like tom cole, a very conservative member from oklahoma, and others have said that that approach makes sense. and yet the speaker refuses to allow a vote on that proposal. and so allow democracy to work and so far unfortunately, speaker boehner has been held captive with the tea party wing of the republicans in the house, which voted down his own proposal just about a week ago, because he said, well, we should ask folks making over $1 million to pay more. his caucus said no. so what we're saying is, let the whole house, democrats and republicans, vote on the president's proposal. let democracy work its will. worst case scenario is that would be defeated. but you don't know until you hold a vote in the house of representatives. that's how democracy is supposed to work. it's not supposed to allow a small, extreme group within the republican caucus to dictate terms to the country. >> there is some indication fr
to produce. >> that was president obama urging republicans to come together on a fiscal cliff deal. the comments drew a quick response to john boehner who said republicans made every effort to reach the balanced deficit agreement that the president promised the people. we have been responsible and reasonable. the president is the one who has never been able to get to yes. we are learning that the fiscal cliff talks have hit a major setback today. joining us is oklahoma congressman tom cole. what are you hearing? are you hopeful that there is a deal today? >> i am probably the last optimist in washington. all the parties that can make a deal are in town. that is a step in the right direction. there is very serious negotiations going on now between senator mcconnell and leader reed. they have found common ground. i wouldn't be surprised that there are bumps along the way but the senate will get something done and it moves to the house. and what senate would be extraordinary important. >> until now it appeared negotiations centered around a small deal that would likely extend bush tax
like a republican. >> stop, get out of here. the fiscal cliff is defense cuts and high taxes welcome to the republican party. >> rational people say that's not a good thing to do. i would hope that robert and sober behavior before new year's eve would land like an alien rocketship in washington and get these people to the table. >> greg: alice, you are sane, i believe. what do you make of this? the point i'm trying to make is why are the democrats scared of the fiscal cliff when it defines basically their ultimate dream? the democrats are anxious. they are embracing the fiscal cliff. we got obamaened a democrats in the conservative thunder bird ready to put the pedal to the metal on the fiscal cliff. they can raise taxes. they can cut military spending and they can blame the g.o.p. when the g.o.p. is doing the smart thing here wanted pointing the finger at the real problem, which is out of control spending. fixing this problem is not going to be easy but it's not complicated. we can't rely on raising taxes. we have to focus on cutting spending. that's what republicans are doing. even
proposal from republicans, well, pretty much, we're headed towards the fiscal cliff and going over. there has to be movement towards a middle ground, and as the meeting started, there was no. we are awaiting reports on what happened. they met for an hour and five minutes. could have been progress towards another type of workable frame work to maybe kick this into next year, but as of the start of this meeting, it was not looking good. the white house will be updating ceos at 5:30, a staff call, staff from white house calling a number of ceos, having a conference call to update them. lloyd blankfein of goldman sachs on the call, trying to confirm other members of the call. thinks moving quickly, but not much progress. david: if there had been any kind of conclusion or any kind of agreement between republicans and democrats as we're looking at pictures -- that was nancy pelosi moments ago, if there was an agreement, there probably would have been an announcement, come out to the gaggle of reporters saying they are happy, and there was none of that announcing going on today; correct?
of 2013. these are the people that republicans have used as pawns in the fiscal cliff debate. earlier this week, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell demanded spending cuts to offset the estimated. $30 billion cost of extending the federal unemployment insurance program for another year. mcconnell was elected to serve the people of kentucky. so how do mcconnell and junior senator rand paul justify letting federal unemployment benefits expire for 24,000 people in their state? how can senator marco rubio allow nearly 119,000 unemployed floridians to be cut off? senators john mccain and jon kyl should be fighting for the 28,000 people who would be affected in arizona. it's not clear if they will. and the list goes on and on. unemployment benefits are vital to the economic security of millions of americans, and the continued recovery of the u.s. economy as a whole. this should not be a bipartisan issue. let's bring in john nichols, washington correspondent for "the nation" magazine. brother nichols, who will be most affected if no deal is reached. not the very reach who can afford to de
is set to fall off the fiscal cliff and negotiatations continue. >> reporter: if republicans and democrats can't strike a dell before midnight monday, taxes will go up for almost every american. automatic spending cuts will kick in and millions will lose unemployment benefits and i'm billing to get this done. >> reporter: republicans introduced but quickly withdrew a proposal to cut the deficit by slowing the growth of social security. but senators say there is some movement as both sides try to pro mize about which americans should start to pay a higher tax rate. >> republicans don't want to see new revenues, in other words democrat tax increases used for new spending. >> reporter: in an unusual move, republicans called on the nation's number two democrat gyp joe biden to help. >> they say their biggest prior is making sure we deal with a deficit in the, this a serious way. but the way they are behaving is making sure tax breaks for the wealthiest are protected. >> reporter: democrats want to introduce legislation to keep tax rates for couples earning up to $250,000 a year.
in the fight over the fiscal cliff as the number two republican in the senate moments ago said there could potentially be a bill ready for the floor, but after lawmakers turned down several different plans to avoid potential tax hikes for every american what do we know about this possible bill? not much, and may be more importantly if it passes, what does it mean for your wallet on january 1st, that is if we fall off the cliff. matt mccall is president of penn financial group llc. the irs is today notifying employers on how much they will have to withhold from their employees' checks. let's go through each and every one of these tax increases if there is no deal, and we dive off the cliff. let's begin with the first one. marginal income tax rates ric rice for nearly everybody in america. >> over 90% of americans will be hit with higher taxes, and everybody talks about the wealthy getting hit the hardest. what i find fascinating is two-thirds of americans that make less than $20,000 a year will get hit with higher tax rates which will equal a gain of close to $600 more per year in taxes. if
years. we do have this practical problem ten days from now of the fiscal cliff. i said republicans would be well advised to accept the fact that president obama won the election and minimize the damage that will be done by the tax increase that is coming. >> chris: you would go for the stripped down obama plan? >> i would go for what the speaker tried to do late last week and try to get the number up from $250,000. yes, there is going to be a tax increase on the wealthy. i would try to protect investments as much as possible. do the amt patch. have a reasonable deal on estate taxes. i'm a squish on this. got to make the best of a bad situation. i think what will happen incidentally is republicans will be faced on monday, on december 31 with having to vote on a much worse proposal than the one they didn't give speaker boehner the majority for. >> chris: the plan b. >> harry reid will pass through the senate on thursday or friday a tax hike on everyone over $250,000 and republicans will have the joyc choice on m, letting it come to a vote. i think the speaker probably has to. b, will they
been a sense as long as these fiscal cliff negotiations have been going on an predating that to the last time the debt ceilings negotiations or give away that we're giving up way too much. and the sense is that it's all a could -- kabuki theater. >> president obama caught the hawaii vacation short for what reason? >> that's act one or two of the kabuki. to make it seem as though even though he flew off for vacation, he cares about what is happening. that's why so many americans and fox viewers obviously in particular are fed up with what's going on in d.c. because it seems there's always a predetermined conclusion. and for the last 30, 40 years in american politics, that end has been kicking the can down the road further and not telling america that finally once and for all we need to just suck it up, take the consequences of all of the provely gacy over the years in washington, d.c. when they say cut spending, mean it. >> mean it. >> efficient the fiscal cliff, it should be called the obama cliff and swan dive over it. good idea or bad idea? >> yeah. i think that would
to that fiscal cliff, i'm going to speak with republican senator rand paul about the consequences. we'll talk a closer look at what all of this means for you. plus, hillary clinton spending new year's eve in the hospital in new york city with a potentially serious blood clot in her head. we'll hear from a medical expert. stand by. tyeah, its the galaxy note ii.re great. you can do two things at the same time. you can watch videos and text. or you could watch the earnings report and take notes, like we're supposed to. so... can i get it? yeah. okay either of you put together the earnings report yet? yes, me totally. what? why don't you tackle the next quarter. you eat yet? polynesian? pu pu platter? yup! keep up the good work. i will keep up the good work. do more with the new samsung galaxy note ii. >>> just want to update you on the breaking news we've been covering here in "the situation room." first, the secretary of state hillary clinton, she has now been diagnosed thanked to a routine follow-up mri with a brain clot in the brain, situated in the space between the brain and the skull, rig
republicans are fighting to have a balanced point of view for the fiscal cliff. if the president wants to spend $one. 6 trillion, he should cut the spending by that. it should be 400,000 jobs. people who give us jobs are the people that earn $400,000 and can afford to have a family and pay for employees. i am very grateful for your mentioning the fact he went on 310 campaigns. i was wondering what he was doing when he was not in the office leading. now i understand he was out campaigning. when he does campaign, have you been able to figure out how much he has cost the american taxpayer for the trips he takes? in hawaii, they mentioned he is lazy because he is from hawaii. i am wondering if he spends all his time campaigning. host: it sounds like he might spend time there because it is warmer than washington, d.c. caller: he does not work that much. when he was in chicago in the senate, in the illinois senate, he did not work that hard. he was only marked present. i did not believe that. now i see the way he operates. he does not seem to be doing his job. that is why he spent $6 trillio
and largest was 2.8 and smallest was 2.6. >> democrats and republicans are bargain to go dodge the fiscal cliff. if a deal is note struck, tax hikes and budget cuts will kick in. it seems unlikely they can write a comprehensive budget bill in time. they are thinking of a fall back plan. >> president obama is urging congress to focus. >> i'm optimistic that an agreement can be achieved. >> at the white house friday the president and congressional leaders spent some 70 minutes in a negotiating session and agreed to keep talking. >> it was constructive. >> it was constructive. >> i'm hopeful and optimistic. >> as snow fell on mostly deserted washington, two sides continued bargaining. if there some on deal, president obama wants smaller bill extending tax cuts making $250,000 or less and continuing unemployment benefits for millions that will lose them. >> i believe such a proposal could pass both houses with bipartisan majorities as long as these leaders allow it to come to a vote. >> we can still avoid going over the fiscal cliff if the president and democratically controlled senate step f
return to washington day with just five days left to avert the fiscal cliff. all eyes will be on the senate after house republicans said it is up to senate leadership to reach a deal. daniel lee reports on the scramble to come together fast. >> president obama landing in washington late this morning. the senator replacing senator daniel in a way -- daniel in no way rode with him on air force one. >> i do not see how you can have a grand bargain involving tax reform entitlement changes in a matter of days. >> even starbucks is getting involved, right in "come together" on its cups. speaker john boehner is sitting the route out after failing to get house republicans to support his own plan. >> i think john boehner is being controlled, unfortunately, by the right wing. >> that leaves it up to majority leader harry ring in the red -- harry reid in the rest of the senate to find a solution. harry reid's plan will avoid tax creases for -- tax increases for people making too large and $50,000. >> you will see a two-step process here, one with the media dynamic so you can set
yesterday at the deadline but that deal to avoid the fiscal cliff on new year's if democrats and republicans can't compromise, tax hikes will kick in, the tax policy center said families making $50,000 a year will have to pay $2,400 more in taxes. >>> the excon who lured firefighters to their deaths left a note saying he wanted to burn down the neighborhood and do what i like doing best, killing people. >> we are being shot at. multiple fireman down, i'm shot. >> that was a call that a wounded firefighter made, william spangler burned his home yesterday and waited for first responders. he was armed a gun, a shot gun and a rifle. he opened fire when crews arrived. arrived. two firefighters were killed. >> just always there for you. you just take them for granted. you don't -- >> two more wounded are still in the hospital on this christmas day. spangler took his own life. his rifle is the same make and caliber weapon used by the newtown shooter. >>> families in connecticut are trying to find solace on this christmas day. the town is still reeling from the shooting that killed 26 people at
the darn thing was d.o.a. in the senate i? way. the republicans are losing the debate on the fiscal cliff. this is obama's economy. let the president and the democrats own it and own the national debt. own the defense cut. instead, boehner and the gang allow the president to star in his own superhero film. he will cut the hawaiian vacation short and come back to save us mere mortal from the fiscal cliff. winning the optics war and winning it big. juan, how did you get the ball back from the republicans? they had it. this was obama's economy, his face calf cliff. now boehner fails on the vote and next thing you know, the ball is in your court. >> juan: i think you are right. i think boehner at the moment looking weaker. he is out of this altogether at the moment. his troops abandoned him. he is okay keeping the speaker on january 3 when the republican caucus vote but you are hearing rumors about eric cantor who is next to him launching some kind of a coop at the moment. i don't know where it goes. but it seems that he is in a position where the republicans in the senate and the white house
. the republicans are losing the debate on the fiscal cliff. this is obama's economy. let the president and the democrats own it and own the national debt. own the defense cut. instead, boehner and the gang allow the president to star in his own superhero film. he will cut the hawaiian vacation short and come back to save us mere mortal from the fiscal cliff. winning the optics war and winning it big. juan, how did you get the ball back from the republicans? they had it. this was obama's economy, his face calf cliff. now boehner fails on the vote and next thing you know, the ball is in your court. >> juan: i think you are right. i think boehner at the moment looking weaker. he is out of this altogether at the moment. his troops abandoned him. he is okay keeping the speaker on january 3 when the republican caucus vote but you are hearing rumors about eric cantor who is next to him launching some kind of a coop at the moment. i don't know where it goes. but it seems that he is in a position where the republicans in the senate and the white house are really the ones who will negotiate the
increased since the election and also increased in how people view his handling of the fiscal cliff, while attitudes towards republicans are consistently bad and the blame and disapproval is only growing for them. it's costing them in the polls and at the polls this crisis of leadership, this consistent blocking that every obama has tried to do. it's really over a tax increase, and for what? it's really to stop primary challenges. that's what this is all about. i mean, it's really bringing the country to a standstill for their own political short term. >> "new york times" is talking about the urgency issue in all of this, and lacking urgency that we have witnessed. they say, yeah, with days left before the fiscal punch lands, both sides are exhibiting little sense of urgency. rather than to foster progress. perry is that the biggest thing, the primaries moving out of this and how everything looks back? >> i think there are two things going on. the first is democrats generally feel they won a man dade. they're not backing down -- the second thing is the primary issue. you have members of co
are blaming republicans for this mess and have made it clear that if we go over the fiscal cliff, it's going to be republicans that will pay the price. >> well, the polls, of course, are a reflection of a moment in time but, you know, i had some of these issues in minnesota. i had the first government shutdown in the history of my state and learned some things, jonathan. you have to have leverage in a negotiation, two, you can overplay your hand. if you corner one group so completely and leave them no way out, it's likely to blow up and the third and last thing i learned is if you do overplay your hand the ill will that comes from that can reside for a long time and spoil your chances to get things done down the road and president obama i think is in a very powerful position right now. he has some leverage but i think in the interest of the country and the interest of getting things done for the rest of his term, he should be mindful of not overplaying his hand here. he has a good sound-bite, which is raise taxes on the wealthy from his perspective but hasn't given the republicans the good s
for democrats to offer a new type of fiscal cliff proposal. democrats are saying to republicans in the house, they should just pass that bill that passed the senate earlier this year, one that extends tax rates for families earning less than $250,000 a year. so very much bit of a stalemate going on here in washington as we move ever closer to the deadline. back to you. ashley: my first reaction is, so what's new? >> not much. ashley: at least it is something. but the 31st is well, the very next day. >> right. ashley: if you look past the headlines about the gridlock in washington what do the fundamentals of the economy really look like? are they not that bad? and will 2013 be the year for you to make money? certainly hope so. mark luschini, janney montgomery scott analyst joining me in an fb. in exclusive. mark, thank you for being here. you are unabashedly bullish, which i love? >> i love the underlying economic fundamentals despite what is played out on the television. ashley: to that point. we're not in a fiscal cliff wrooefr in a fiscal slope. is it being overblown? >> the terminal facto
to have a fiscal cliff recommendation soon. >> we will be working hard to see if we can get there in next 24 hours and so i am hopeful and optimistic. >> reporter: but the sticking point remains finding something that can make it through the house with enough support from republicans. >> it seems like the 250 threshold that the president proposed previously is unlikely to pass the house in its current form, and so without some sort of additional compromise there, it seems unlikely that we're going to get something done before the end of the year. >> susie: you know thanks for that report. i am just wondering from all of the reporting you have done, do you think we are better off with a bad deal than no deal at all? >> you know susie when peopletal they are talking about a bad deal in political terms. frankly it's republicans that are most worried about the bad deal they have most leverage. the president has the most leverage. they are worried about a bad deal. any deal that gets us past the fiscal cliff is going to be seen as a good deal. >> susie: it seems like we are further apart than
, but can he lead both parties to a compromise fiscal cliff work-around? republicans say democrats have been dragging their feet for months and they won't be pressured into what they considered a bad deal that doesn't help balance the nation's books. >> the president calls congressional leaders to the white house, it's political theater or they have a deal. my bet is it's theater. >> reporter: speaker john boehner hasn't been able to get them to budge on a deal to raise taxes and the name calling is getting ugly. >> the american people i don't think understand the house of representatives is operating without the house of representatives. it's being operated with a dictatorship of the speaker, not allowing the vast majority of the house of representatives to get what they want. >> reporter: and it's true the senate controlled by democrats is working this week, but they're not working on the fiscal cliff. and the house won't even be back to work until sunday, just two days before the year-end deadline. then there is also the milk fiscal cliff. have you heard of that one? if congress does not
reform trying to sell a fiscal cliff deal. he is was on meet the press. republicans weren't happy with that appearance because he they felt he was blaming them. new development in the last hour or two, vice president biden has come back from delaware. he is now here at the white house. he has had two phone calls with mitch mcconnell. in previous budget battles, joe biden has been the closer on these deals. his coming back from delaware might be a sign they are moving a little closer. that will be something to watch. the whole thing about changing cpi and reining in cost of entitlements, republicans are judging in on that. take a listen. >> one of proposals we made was something called change cpi but basically makes an adjustment in terms of how inflation is calculated on social security. highly unpopular among democrats not something supported but to strengthen social security in the long time i'm willing to make those decisions. >> reporter: in the morning, the president seemed to be opening the door to rein in those entitlements and then you heard harry reid shut the door on it.
. >> republicans are firing back about how the grand ol' party is handling fiscal cliff negotiations. why they say the president needs to stop the blame game and start leading. fair and balanced debates when we come back. questions? anyone have occasional constipation, diarrhea, gas, bloating? yeah. one phillips' colon health probiotic cap each day helps defend against these digestive issues with three strains of good bacteria. approved! [ female announcer ] live the regular life. phillips'. >>> our continuing conference of the fiscal cliff in this special edition of the fox report. the saying during an interview today it's the house republicans to blocked any potential deal by refusing to accept tax hikes on the wealthiest americans. house speaker john boehner said, quote, americans elected president obama to lead, not cast blame. the president's comments to be are ironic as a theme of our negotiations was his unwillingness to agree to anyone that requires him to stand up to his own party. brad blakeman, former deputy assistant to george w. bush, debby dingle from mish michigan to talk about us.
as part of the overall deal here on the fiscal cliff. republicans have been resisting that by announcing the debt ceiling limit will be held on monday, ratchets up the pressure to include the debt ceiling piece in the final package, whatever that may be, but still not clear, carl, there is going to be a final package of any kind. one quick note, we saw the realism. pact in the real world of the debt situation. treasury announcing yesterday it has suspended the sale of state and local government securities, government series securities. so already, they are doing some maneuvering here financially to try to avoid that debtly limit. the treasury secretary says he doesn't know how much wiggle room they are going to have, given that all the fiscal cliff uncertainty is out there. >> eamon, on this idea that the house members get called back with 48 hours' notice. traders are looking for that headline if it happens almost that bleed out there or procedural moment where that is announced, so to speak? >> a good question. i have been in touch with republican leadership about that today. what they
, senator john thune spoke with reporters on where things stand on the fiscal cliff. >> where do things stand as far as a republican deal? >> republicans advanced a proposal last night and you heard senator mcconnell talk about it on the floor. we're still waiting for a counteroffer. there was an indication we would receive the by 10:00 this morning, but discussions still continue. senator mcconnell and vice president joe biden are continuing to discuss this and we think there still could be a path forward. democrats have come out and made a huge deal out of changing this and republicans are very concerned that it should not be used as an offset to reduce or replace some of the spending cuts that would occur and democrats put forward an alternative. this is a process. there's a lot of give-and-take going on. republicans do not want to see new revenue, democratic tax increases, being used for new spending. that is where many members are drawing the line. >> you all want to use this technical level, but it would really affect social security recipients in the sequester. democrats want to
. he said if republicans stop they will be to blame for the fiscal cliff. what role do you have in this don't you have to show leadership to break the imabout passe? the president went back to pointing the finger at republicans. take a list. >> speaker boehner and republican leader mcconnell to accept the fact taxes on wealthiest americans should go up a little bit. if folks can't say yes to good offers i have an obligation of the american people to make sure that the entire burden of deficit reduction doesn't fall on seniors who are relying on medicare. >> now, what the president s correct about s that in the negotiations with speaker boehner in recent weeks the president was giving on social security and med did i kay changes that democrats were not excited about but speaker benito walked away -- but speaker boehner walked away from those negotiations. senator mitch mcconnell said in the last couple of days when got a phone call from the president saying let's try to come back to the table and work this out. mcconnell said that is the first time he heard from the president, se
. tom hudson will be along a little later in the program. a positive turn in the fiscal cliff crisis. house republicans agree to meet sunday night to resume talks after a day of finger-pointing and complaining in washington. on wall street, fiscal fears created whiplash for investors: a big stock market sell-off and then bounce back on word that lawmakers are springing back into action. and, if you used your smartphone to shop this christmas, you're in fashion. it was the year's top retail trend. we have that and more tonight on "n.b.r."! a dramatic cliff-hanger today between washington and wall street about the fiscal cliff. stocks initially sold off after senate majority leader harry
sunday for a possible vote on the fiscal cliff field. republican leaders have not said whether they will act on the sandy bill or move a smaller alternative measure. congressional aides say the best chance for the full package to pass is if it moves in tandem with a potential agreement to avert the fiscal cliff. the strategy in the house is if they try to move this bill at the same time they move the fiscal cliff bill, it has a better chance of passing them by itself? guest: the house is back to deal with the fiscal cliff bill. the hope to supporters of the sandy supplemental is the house would do something on the fiscal cliff package and somehow they could use that as an opportunity to get the sandy bill through. the chance for the full supplemental to be passed before the end of the year, it will either be a smaller amount or they will not touch it at all. the senate will have to start over next year. host: raymond hernandez i need." >> they joined -- an unusual move they are working together as opposed to saying separately i am in new york, this is what i need, new jersey an
and not very effective, but ultimately, i think they will avoid the fiscal cliff. >> but neither side appears willing to give in. democrats, for example, are frustrated that republicans will not agree to raise taxes on the wealthy. >> the majority of rich people in our great country are willing to pay more. the only people who disagree with that are republicans who work in this building. >> republicans say that democrats want to spend too much money. so, as much of the united states digs out from yet another series of snowstorms, many average citizens are asking themselves what it will take to get politicians in washington to stop squabbling and come up with a compromise that will help put america's fiscal house in order. >> are both parties determined to go over the fiscal cliff together? let's bring in our washington correspondent for more on this. what can you tell us about the meeting coming up in less than an hour? what will the president talking about with the republican leadership? >> there are only six people who really know what is going on, and what will really happen at the white h
fiscal cliff. two republican senators on the sunday talk shows yesterday say they agree with the president's position that both sides should avoid tax hikes on middle-class americans. also, nra executive said the group would not support any new gun laws in this country. good morning this monday, december 24, 2012. we will begin this morning with your thoughts on religion and politics. as a religion influence your political decisions? also send us your tweet if you go to twitter.com -- we will begin with the sunday review section of the "the new york times" yesterday. we want to get your take on this. it does religion influence your politics? with more people saying they are unaffiliated. we want to get your take. here are some comments from facebook this morning. what are your thoughts on this december 24, 2012. it does religion influence your politics? let me show you this from "the new york times" this morning. a new poll out worldwide religion shows up that one out of six follows no religion. that is worldwide. all religions outside the united states as well. the upi
have to work tomorrow, presumably on the fiscal cliff, should the house republicans, the leadership, call that body back into session? >> well, i think speaker boehner will be in on the negotiations, and he will know when something might go through the senate, and he will certainly call the house in time to address this. they are prepared to go back, but right now, the action is in the senate, and i know that we're all trying to come up with and talk to our colleagues about some kind of way to avoid this massive increase in taxes that would occur if we don't act. and the things that are going on beneath the surface, i think, are important in the senate side, and i know the speaker will call them back when it's necessary. >> on a different issue, you're from a border state, you're, obviously, retiring soon. immigration, it's something that your party tried to accomplish under george w. bush, was not able to. as someone who can sort of speak freely about it, what's going to need to happen -- what's going to need to be seen from republicans and democrats for that to move forward in any
between democrats and republicans on the fiscal cliff, we have learned of a bit of change this evening with the negotiations. for one, we have learned that the senate will reconvene tomorrow at 11:00 a.m. that means no decision tonight. we have also learned senator mitch mcconnell, the republican minority leader, has had conversations directly with vice president biden. mcconnell had been working with senate majority leader harry reid, but he and biden have gotten things done when working together in the past. can they do it now? let's go to dana bash. dana, what do you think? is it promising? can they go it now? >> reporter: well, let's start there. it certainly has happened before between these two men, and it's happened before when democrats on capitol hill are either split or have gotten, frankly, just too frustrated with the republican counterparts to have conversations to be able to find bipartisan agreement. these are the two men who negotiated an extension of the bush era tax cuts for two years. that happened two years ago when republicans had a lot of political capital because
-called fiscal cliff, taxes and spending cuts unless democrats and republicans reach a deal by new year's eve. >> nearly all the major players in those negotiations are starting to agree on one thing, and that is that a deal is virtually impossible by that deadline. senior officials say there is little hope of a grand bargain to shave trillions of dollars off of america's mountain of debt. >> applause for the bell at the start of the trading day is a daily ritual at the new york stock exchange, despite the enthusiasm, traders are keeping an anxious eye on share prices. the fiscal cliff is on everyone's mind. u.s. treasury secretary timothy geithner has warned that his department will need to take extraordinary measures to postpone the upcoming government defaults. he plans adjustments to the national budget that would give the u.s. two months of grace. president barack obama has said he is still hopeful that a resolution can be reached this year. he cut short his vacation in hawaii to restart negotiations with republicans in congress. before christmas, the president called for bipartisan coop
for stopping this fiscal cliff business. we are going to speak to a republican lawmaker in a moment, and marcia blackburn and in the meantime, you are watching the speciacoverage here on cnn and don lemon and me and our colleagues in washington. we will be right back. s with adding a friend, ♪ ♪ could end with adding a close friend. ♪ the lexus december to remember sales event is on. offering some of our best values of the year. this is the pursuit of perfection. >>> as republicans and democrats are at an impasse, both sides are blaming each other, and the markets will open up by the way in asia in the next couple of hours and you might start to see a reaction, but although, i don't know what they have to react to, but our own markets will open in 14 hours from now here in the united states. maybe they will react to something, too, but my point is that congress could ruin a good economy. for perspective, we will talk to a republican from tennessee, representative marcia blackburn. thank you for being with us. >> good to see you, yes. >> i know we have talked about this many times and indi
at the other chamber, saying the senate must act on a bill to avoid the fiscal cliff. a spokesman for harry reid some are blaming the gop for the holdup. no further legislation can move unless republicans drop their knee-jerk obstructionism. if the country falls off the fiscal cliff, it may feel gradual at first, except on wall street. >> the reaction from the financial markets and the stock markets -- you could see something quick. >> a top ceo is hoping to jolt them into action. he wants employees to write " come together" on the coffee cups. >> i am maintaining my optimism that we will see the republicans and administration come together and do what is right for the country. >> starbucks has a message for the players in washington and is taking out an ad in "the washington post" featuring a quote from lincoln. will it work? we will see. hallie jackson, wbal-tv 11 news. >> 6;09. 37 degrees at the airport. >> former president george h.w. bush is transferred to intensive care. we will have an update. >> i giant aquarium suddenly collapses. >> everyone has that fear when they stand by it. it
some of the spending cuts that are part of this so-called fiscal cliff. republicans want to see more deficit reduction. democrats say that could come later, but this would be a smaller plan. there are really some serious differences and not a lot of time left. congress has created its own deadline to this so-called fiscal cliff and now has to live by it over the next several hours to see if something can get done. erica? >> kelly o'donnell, thank you. chuck todd is nbc's political director. kelly mentioned some constructive movement but then there's this chasm we keep hearing about. is there a chance for a deal? >> i think -- i want to say yes, there's a chance for a deal! they're not that far apart. it really depends on the political motivations of the people at the negotiating table. you think about joe biden and mitch mcconnell, mitch mcconnell is totally looking at this through a political lens, what is in the best interest of republicans in his view? from what i understand in his view he thinks what's in the best interest of the republican party is getting the tax issue off the
. because president obama perfectly going over the fiscal cliff to blame republicans because he can't default on the debt. he will have to compromise between now and february. second of all the baseline gets reset if the tax cuts expire. everybody will propose a tax cut in january and right now we're fighting whether to increase taxes or not. you can see possibility of a deal seen as win-win for both sides. third, if republicans don't come up with a deal, a bad deal right now, they still have the $800 billion in revenue they put on the table from limiting deductions and loopholes that they can use to buy down rates. so i think the odds are, after january 1 we will get a deal and it will be much more favorable deal to the republican party because we'll have the leverage and president obama won't. heather: simon, basically what mark's laid out there would be more of a bunge jump over the cliff instead after nosedive, what do you think about the possibility, good thing or bad? >> i think it is going to happen whether it is good or bad. hopefully in the first week to 10 days of the new
to the hill by president obama to senate republicans to avert the fiscal cliff. and nbc's white house correspondent peter alexander joins me now. republicans saying, oh, the president is having a deal. the president is saying no. harry reid is saying no. what do we know? >> i guess we know very little. we know this isn't going to be litigated in the mead ra. but the white house wants to make it very clear that there is no new proposal on the way to its hill today despite the comments from senator scott brown and others today, a senior administration telling me a short time ago, and i quote, there is no proposal being sent up today. i think that does it pretty emphatically. that was the language that came from harry reid just a short time ago. the president is here. we have reached out to aides, as well. they say they have no information that he will be speaking publicly today. we also know as you see him arriving only a matter of hours ago that the vice president, joe biden, has been meeting in the white house, as well. but at this point, that's where things stand with barely 100 hour
leader harry reid is ready to introduce legislation that would avert the fiscal cliff, but only if he gets assurances from republican leaders that they won't try to block it. that standoff is creating some tension on capitol hill that spilled on to the senate floor today. >> the senate will come to order. >> reporter: in the normally genteel senate, leader reid unleashed a tirade today about house speaker john boehner, accusing him of running a dictatorship in the house. >> speaker boehner is not willing to negotiate. we have not heard a word from leader mcconnell. nothing is happening. >> reporter: mitch mcconnell, the top republican in the senate, said it's reid who hasn't reached out for weeks. >> the phone never rang. and so now here we are, five days from the new year, and we might finally start talking. >> reporter: but talking about what? so far, reid has not introduced the scaled-down bill he was reportedly working on over the christmas holiday. sources say that bill would extend the bush-era tax cuts for americans making less than $250,000 a year. with the clock ticking, reid
the finger at the other chamber saying the senate must act on a bill to avoid the fiscal cliff. the gop is blamed for the holdup. no further legislation can move unless republicans drop their knee-jerk obstruction. the mayfield gradual at first, except on wall street. >> the reaction of the financial markets and the stock markets. you could see something quick. >> a top ceo is hoping to jolts them into action. >> i am maintaining my optimism that we will see the republicans and administration come together and do what is right for the country. >> starbucks its in its message that our players in washington and take me out an ad featuring a quotation from lincoln. will it work? we will see. >> hallie jackson, thank you. >> kim dacey is live on what you need to know. >> about a dozen state laws will go into effect next tuesday. we have highlighted just a few. with any new year comes new opportunities and of course new laws. after a battle, gay couples will be able to say "i do" on january 1. another new law changes the election cycle. they will be held on the same cycle as presidential ele
that the president is doing a better job negotiating on this fiscal cliff, and that they will blame republicans more if we go over it. >> we have certainly been hearing that. ross, you have been saying no matter who comes out on the deal, it makes it less likely republicans will win tax debates anytime soon. >> yeah, in the sense that, you know, the party has -- i think charles is right, that the party has sort of locked itself into a corner where yes, there is this possibility that they'll be able to vote for tax cuts and they'll be able to say, well, we held the line. we did our best and so on. but the danger for them is that these stopped being the bush tax cuts and become the obama tax cuts, right? i think that's what conservatives and republicans should be most worried about from a long-term political perspective right now. i mean, in a sense, they have sort of -- they have won a particular policy battle in the sense that most of the bush tax cuts, both parties believe should be extended. right? we're talking about 97%, 98% of the bush tax cuts. you could say that's a policy win for republicans
passed after we went over the fiscal cliff, it then loses whatever upside there was for republicans, except, and we have to mention this, for republicans vulnerable to primary challenges, there's obviously a lot of anxiety about being, you know, the first republican in 20 years to vote for a tax increase. i think that's the big fear, that it's been so long. republicans haven't cast this kind of vote. you don't want to be the first one to do it. >> yeah, and charles, we're told the democrats may be waiting until the very last minute. maybe they're banking on pressure and the gop caving. what should americans make of that with so much at stake here? i think there's gamesmanship on both sides, that's obviously true, but i think democrats understand they get a better deal out of this if they actually go over the cliff. what the president was offering, his last round of offers, was in fact something that a lot of democrats and liberals did not take kindly to. in fact, when boehner was not able to pass plan b, he threw the president a lifeline and said nobody can be mad at you because i c
the fiscal cliff. >> the idea, republicans and this is the idea that has been floated, will let us go off the cliff sor they or certain members won't have to raise taxes. >> they will cut taxes retroactive retroactively. >> seems like a bad way to go. >> look, this was a machine built to encourage compromise. and it may get easier for some republicans to come back in january if we go over the cliff. the reason, of course, all the bush tax cuts expire with the cliff, when you come back, you would only be voting to cut taxes on some force of the public, up to a certain income level. if you do it now, basically extend push tax cuts, are you effectively raising taxes on some people. might be easier for republicans, it takes us only a small step of the larger accommodation we need. we need some kind of long-term agreement to stabilize the federal government's finances and automatic spending cut side of this is a really blunt instrument. they have to come together if they are going to deal with this, and the problem as i say, all political incentives are toward polarization and refusing to bend
. . >>> while republicans and democrats angle over the fiscal cliff there's another storm going on within the gop involving the tea party and guns. one tea party group held a machine gun social, another a great gun giveaway and dick armey may have used guns to influence his fellow tea partiers. according to "the washington post" mr. armey recently marched into the office of freedom works. he was accompanied by his wife and also a man identified as a former capitol hill police officer who was volunteering his services as a security guard to mr. armey. now, the fact that this security guard was carrying a gun on his waist is a key detail because mr. armey's mission was so force his enemies in freedom works out of the organization. he was carrying out a purge, and the man with the gun actually escorted two of the targets of that purge out of the freedomworks building. so is this what the tea party has come to, an armed coup? hogan, with an intro like that, you know i got to start with you, my friend. >> of course. >> there's a lot of discord within your party between the fiscal cliff and gun
the fiscal cliff, which is a sure sign that the senate majority leader, harry reid, a democrat, is working on crafting legislation on his own that he would essentially dare house and senate republicans to oppose. his legislation would likely extend the bush-era tax cuts for households making less than 250,000 a year. it might also include enough short-term spending cuts to temporarily offset for, say, six or eight months, the indiscriminate across-the-board spending cuts that are set to go into effect on january 1. yis bill would also try to tie up some year-end loose ends by extending long-term unemployment benefits, patching the alternative minimum tax that duds up hitting so many middle class families, and preventing a mbg scheduled drop-off in thdicare reimbursement rates for doctors at the start of the enar. eyre in hawaii, the president has had a low-key christmas with family and friends, but he will omoreaving this state as early as tomorrow to head back to grshington d.c. to put pressure on congress to pass that democratic plan. jim? >> any indications, nancy, where thewhether the
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on "meet the press" today when he said that republicans are to blame for this fiscal cliff stalemate. chris? >> kristin welker, thanks to you and thanks to nbc's kelly o'donnell on the hill as well. more ahead this hour as we continue to cover the ongoing negotiations on the hill. why a small deal now would set up a big fight later. more on secretary of state hillary clinton who has been hospitalize tonight with a blood clot. msnbc's live coverage continues after this. >>> time is running out for congress to reach a deal to avert the fiscal cliff crisis. at this point, the approaching deadline can be measured in hours, and expectations are being scaled down accordingly. >> i suggested to them, if they can't do a comprehensive package of smart deficit reduction, let's, at minimum, make sure people's taxes don't go up. >> the president appearing on "meet the press" this morning, pushing a narrow last-minute deal that would extend the bush tax cuts for the middle class but leave a hoet of other issues unresolved. if congress does reach a small deal on taxes before the fiscal cliff deadlines up
, then there is no way that we can make that fiscal cliff deadline. it's going to require the republican leadership to be willing to have a traditional up or down vote on the majority leader's legislation. >> well, for a man who's filibustered his own legislation, that's a tall order, to be sure. >> it is, but it happens in the context of all of us looking at what kind of filibuster reform there should be. >> right. >> and if republicans want to show the american people that at that juncture, with everybody watching and so much at stake, they're going to force a fiscal cliff breaking filibuster, i think that's going to have effects that they're going to be very concerned about down the road. so we have kind of a filibuster window here, if the minority leader, if the republican leader will let us proceed that way. >> well, from your mouth to your 99 colleagues' ears, to be sure. >> yeah. >> let's take a listen at your leader, your senate majority leader reid after the meeting. >> i hope everything's a good sign. i've had my confidence destroyed on other occasions, so i hope it's not on this occasion
just yet. with only a few hours before the fiscal cliff deadline, there are signs of progress. >> it appears an agreement to prevent this new year's tax hike is within sight, but it's not done. there are still issues left to resolve. >> reporter: senate republican leader mitch mcconnell and joe biden have negotiated. the deal with extend the tax rates for house holds. increase the estate tax rate from 35% to 40% and extend unemployment benefits for one year. >> let's pass the tax relief portion now. let's take what's been agreed to and get moving. >> reporter: but the sticking point. how long to push off those massive manda tore pri spending cuts that would go into effect in the new year. democrats want a one-year extension. republicans insist on dealing with it sooner. if there has no overall agreement, americans will feel the impact of the fiscal cliff very quickly. the average american family will see a tax increase of more than 3400. if the senate is able to pass a deal, top house republicans aren't confident they'll have the time to get it done by midnight, which means ta
is to the painful fall off the fiscal cliff. democrats and republicans went to the bull pen on sunday, calling in their so-called closers. here is one, here is the other. vice president joe biden and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. john boehner not in this, nancy pelosi isn't in this, not even the president. the house reconvenes at 10:00, the senate at 11:00, bright and early. sarcastic. neither of them showing particular signs of progress. >> these two worked together in the senate for 20 years. so you hope -- >> in fairness, the houses are not convening. these guys are not working. i don't care if it doesn't play out in the media. the big stumbling block has been avoided. republicans dropped their demand to reduce social security cost of living increases. >> i was really gratified to hear republicans had taken the demand for social security benefits off the table. truth is, they never should have been on the table to begin with there is still significant distance between the two sides, but negotiations continue. >> the consequences of this are too high for the american people to be e
. there is no republican leader that wants to default on our debt. >> that's a different story. not the fiscal cliff. that's the debt ceiling debate we were talking about. what he is saying is, give us the free checkbook, the additional trillions we want to spend, it has to happen through the house. he's taking a shot at the republicans. that's different from the fiscal cliff. >> well, they are intertwined. i mean, they are not separate entities and the issue here is the language that he used. he conflated republicans holding their own children hostage and then murdering them. imagine if a republican had said something like that. but you don't hear about it. you hear about it here -- >> because we put it here on fox news. i like to play the game deal or no deal -- >> taken. >> sorry. >> juliette, we are going to begin with you. >> okay. >> let me know what you think -- deal or no deal by the deadline? >> no deal like lindsay graham says. the meeting was political theater. >> andrea. >> no deal. he doesn't want one. [laughter] >> unfortunately, there probably will be something in early january -- >> with t
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the fiscal cliff was 10 days ago. republican leaders in the house are waiting for the senate democrats to act. they want to see what kind of bill harry reid brings forward on the floor. he is looking at republican leader mitch mcconnell to say what are you willing to accept? so here we are. there is blame game going on. there is lot of maneuvering still. bottom line we'll probably meet this weekend heading up to the fiscal cliff and we'll see what the final offer is to see if they can push it across the finish line. gregg: mike, we're getting word the president has nod no meaningful conversation with anybody own capitol hill, especially john boehner and yet we do hear, that, you know, the seeds have been talking. that staffers have actually been negotiating. what do you hear? >> reporter: that's right. we heard there have been ongoing discussions, taking place throughout the christmas holiday but at this point republicans are saying they took a beating, if you will, trying to lead in the house, a deal that did not go very far. so they're saying, okay, harry reid, senate democrats, see what yo
morning. >> good morning, duarte. yes. hopes for legislation to avoid the fiscal cliff now turns to the senate, but white house and republicans remain far apart. senators and staffers will be filling these empty hallways today trying to work out a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. higher taxes will give the average american about $1,500 less to spend next year, and economists believe the $110 billion spending cuts will result in more layoffs. senator harry reid has a plan to keep taxes low for everyone making less than $250,000 a year as well as short-term spending cuts until a bigger deal can be reached. >> it is going to be a patch because in four days we can't solve everything. >> while senators try to brave the bad weather in many parts of the country in order to make it back here to washington, house leaders say they will not leave home unless the senate passes its bill first. house republicans scuttled a proposal from speaker john boehner last week, and 48% of americans say they are to blame if no deal is reached. >> both sides here have a problem with the american people, an
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